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07/28/2021 01:00 PM Senate JOINT ARMED SERVICES COMMITTEE

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01:01:13 PM Start
01:03:13 PM Member Introductions
01:11:52 PM Decoration of Honor
01:45:03 PM Organizational Meeting
01:56:20 PM Adjourn
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                    ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE                                                                                  
                 JOINT ARMED SERVICES COMMITTEE                                                                               
                         July 28, 2021                                                                                          
                           1:01 p.m.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative Matt Claman, Co-Chair                                                                                            
Senator Mike Shower, Co-Chair                                                                                                   
Representative David Nelson                                                                                                     
Representative Ivy Spohnholz                                                                                                    
Representative Geran Tarr                                                                                                       
Senator Roger Holland                                                                                                           
Senator Scott Kawasaki (via teleconference)                                                                                     
Senator Lora Reinbold                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                              
Representative Chris Tuck                                                                                                       
Senator Joshua Revak                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                              
PUBLIC MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                              
Colonel Tim Jones, retired - Fairbanks (via teleconference)                                                                     
Brigadier General Julio "Randy" Banez, retired - Fairbanks (via                                                                 
 teleconference)                                                                                                                
Colonel Robert Doehl, retired - Anchorage                                                                                       
Colonel George Vakalis, retired - Anchorage                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
PUBLIC MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Nelson N. Angapak, Sr. - Anchorage                                                                                              
Commodore James Chase, retired - Anchorage                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
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DECORATION OF HONOR                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
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WITNESS REGISTER                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
EMMA POTTER, Staff                                                                                                              
Representative Matt Claman                                                                                                      
Alaska State Legislature                                                                                                        
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:  Delivered a PowerPoint on  the Decoration of                                                             
Honor medallions.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
KIM SKIPPER, Staff                                                                                                              
Representative David Nelson                                                                                                     
Alaska State Legislature                                                                                                        
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:  Delivered a PowerPoint on  the Decoration of                                                             
Honor medallions.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
ACTION NARRATIVE                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
1:01:13 PM                                                                                                                    
CO-CHAIR MATT  CLAMAN called the  Joint Armed  Services Committee                                                             
(JASC)  meeting to  order at  1:01 p.m.  Present at  the call  to                                                               
order  were  Senators  Holland,  Kawasaki  (via  teleconference),                                                               
Reinbold and  Co-Chair Shower;  and Representatives  Tarr, Nelson                                                               
and  Co-Chair  Claman.  Public  members  present  were  Brigadier                                                               
General  Julio  "Randy"   Banez,  retired  (via  teleconference),                                                               
Colonel Tim  Jones, retired (via teleconference),  Colonel Robert                                                               
Doehl,   retired    and   Colonel   George    Vakalis,   retired.                                                               
Representative Spohnholz arrived shortly thereafter.                                                                            
                                                                                                                              
^Member Introductions                                                                                                           
                      MEMBER INTRODUCTIONS                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
1:03:13 PM                                                                                                                  
CO-CHAIR  CLAMAN  asked members  to  give  a brief  introduction,                                                               
beginning with the public members.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
1:03:26 PM                                                                                                                    
COLONEL DOEHL said he serves  as a JASC public member recommended                                                               
by the Municipality of Anchorage  (MOA), currently serving as the                                                               
MOA   Building  Official   Development   Services  Director   and                                                               
temporarily as the  Mass Care Branch Director.  He explained that                                                               
the MOA oversees  the mass care effort at the  Sullivan Arena and                                                               
other locations  in Anchorage. He  retired as a Colonel  with the                                                               
Air National  Guard after 18  years of  service in the  U.S. Army                                                               
and 14 years of  service in the U.S. Air Force.  He said he looks                                                               
forward to learning from other JASC members.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
1:04:02 PM                                                                                                                    
COLONEL  VAKALIS  said   he  serves  as  a   JASC  public  member                                                               
recommended by the  Municipality of Anchorage. He  came to Alaska                                                               
while serving in the U.S. Army,  retiring as a full colonel after                                                               
serving  two  tours  of  duty   in  Alaska.  He  stated  that  he                                                               
previously served as  the MOA Municipal Manager for  12 years and                                                               
as an Assistant Superintendent for  the Anchorage School District                                                               
for nine  years. He said  his company, Vakalis &  Associates, LLC                                                               
provides consulting services to the school district.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
1:04:35 PM                                                                                                                    
BRIGADIER  GENERAL  "Randy"  BANEZ  stated that  he  works  as  a                                                               
civilian for  a defense  logistics agency on  JBER. He  began his                                                               
active  duty  military  service  as  a  Field  Artillery  Officer                                                               
[deployed to Turkey,  Bahrain, and Kuwait]. He came  to Alaska in                                                               
1992 to serve at JBER  [commanding from company to brigade level,                                                               
including 197th  Support Battalion, the 207th  Infantry Group and                                                               
the  Alaska  Army  National  Guard, retiring  in  2012].  He  was                                                               
recommended  by the  Department  of Military  & Veterans  Affairs                                                               
(DMVA) to serve as a civilian public member of JASC.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
1:05:12 PM                                                                                                                    
COLONEL  JONES  said he  serves  as  a  JASC public  member  from                                                               
Fairbanks.  He came  to Fairbanks  with  the U.S.  Army in  2008,                                                               
serving  his  last  assignment  as  Garrison  Commander  at  Fort                                                               
Wainwright.  He said  he retired  as  colonel after  27 years  of                                                               
service.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
1:05:50 PM                                                                                                                    
CO-CHAIR  CLAMAN  asked  the  legislative  committee  members  to                                                               
introduce themselves.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
1:05:58 PM                                                                                                                    
REPRESENTATIVE  SPOHNHOLZ  said  this  will  be  her  third  year                                                               
serving as  a JASC member  representing House District  16, which                                                               
is adjacent to  JBER. She said she is the  daughter and daughter-                                                               
in-law  of  military  veterans. She  expressed  her  interest  in                                                               
serving on the committee.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
1:06:24 PM                                                                                                                    
REPRESENTATIVE  NELSON  remarked that  he  was  pleased that  the                                                               
committee has  so much U.S. Army  representation, especially from                                                               
civilians. He said he serves  as a JASC member representing House                                                               
District  15,  which includes  Northeast  Anchorage  and the  Air                                                               
Force portion  of JBER. He  said he  currently serves as  a first                                                               
lieutenant in the Alaska Army National Guard.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
1:07:01 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  HOLLAND said  he is  a JASC  member representing  Senate                                                               
District N.  He said he joined  the U.S. Coast Guard  Reserves in                                                               
1991. During his service, he  was deployed to Bahrain, Kuwait and                                                               
Guantanamo Bay, Cuba.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
1:07:34 PM                                                                                                                    
REPRESENTATIVE   TARR  said   she   serves  as   a  JASC   member                                                               
representing  House District  19, which  includes Mountain  View,                                                               
Russian Jack  and Airport Heights.  She stated that  her district                                                               
is adjacent  to JBER.  She has  worked with JBER  on a  number of                                                               
issues,   including   the    runway   relocation,   housing   and                                                               
neighborhood  safety   issues.  She  said  she   appreciates  the                                                               
military   members'  participation   in  the   community  council                                                               
meetings to  maintain strong relationships.  She stated  that she                                                               
previously served as co-chair of  JASC. She related that a number                                                               
of her  family members served  in the military. She  thanked JASC                                                               
members  who  have  military  service.  She  thanked  the  public                                                               
members  for their  ongoing participation.  She  stated that  the                                                               
legislature  previously  cosponsored  the Alaska  Defense  Forum,                                                               
which initially  was held  pre-COVID-19. The  next forum  will be                                                               
held in Fairbanks on August 4, 2021.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
1:08:31 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR REINBOLD  said her  family moved to  Alaska in  the 1960s                                                               
when her  father served as Site  Manager for the Clear  Air Force                                                               
Station, which  is now  Clear Space Force  Station. She  said she                                                               
serves as a JASC member  representing Eagle River, which includes                                                               
a  large portion  of  JBER  in Senate  District  G. She  recently                                                               
attended the change  of command ceremony for  Major General Brian                                                               
Eifler, U.S. Army  Alaska. She stated that she has  served on the                                                               
Military  and Veterans  Affairs Committee  for most  of her  nine                                                               
years serving in the legislature and as co-chair of JASC.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
1:09:31 PM                                                                                                                    
CO-CHAIR  SHOWER said  he serves  as a  JASC member  representing                                                               
Senate  District  E,  including  the north  side  of  the  Mat-Su                                                               
Borough to Valdez, Glennallen and  Delta Junction. He stated that                                                               
his district includes the missile  defense complex at Fort Greely                                                               
and training facilities at Fort  Wainwright. He said he served in                                                               
the U.S.  Air Force from 1986  to 2010. He characterized  JASC as                                                               
an important committee providing  the legislature with updates on                                                               
the  military. Alaska  has a  strong military  presence including                                                               
its active  and non-active  members. The  interest in  the Arctic                                                               
continues to increase  due to its deep water  ports and strategic                                                               
location, he said.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
1:10:47 PM                                                                                                                    
CO-CHAIR  CLAMAN said  he serves  as a  JASC member  representing                                                               
House  District 21.  He stated  that many  of his  family members                                                               
served in  the military although  he did  not. He stated  that he                                                               
plays taps  at numerous  veterans' funerals.  He agreed  with the                                                               
previous comments  that this  is an  important committee  to keep                                                               
informed on military activities in  Alaska. He noted the presence                                                               
of Kim Skipper who has assisted the committee.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
^Decoration of Honor                                                                                                            
                      Decoration of Honor                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
1:11:52 PM                                                                                                                    
CO-CHAIR CLAMAN announced the consideration  of the Decoration of                                                               
Honor.  He  directed attention  to  the  fact sheet  in  members'                                                               
packets.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  CLAMAN   asked  Senator  Kawasaki,   participating  via                                                               
teleconference to introduce himself.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
1:12:12 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR KAWASAKI  said he  is a  JASC member  representing Senate                                                               
District J, representing the City  of Fairbanks, adjacent to Fort                                                               
Wainwright. He  acknowledged that  the state  has a  huge veteran                                                               
and  active  duty military  population.  He  stated that  he  has                                                               
served on  JASC for a number  of years, including as  co-chair in                                                               
2016.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
1:12:49 PM                                                                                                                    
CO-CHAIR CLAMAN returned  to the Decoration of  Honor fact sheet.                                                               
He stated that his staff would  provide a short PowerPoint on the                                                               
Decoration of Honor.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
1:13:42 PM                                                                                                                    
EMMA  POTTER, staff,  Representative  Matt  Claman, Alaska  State                                                               
Legislature, Juneau, Alaska, reviewed the  fact sheet on slide 1.                                                               
She explained that the Decoration of  Honor was an award given to                                                               
fallen  service members.  It was  created in  2007 by  House Bill                                                               
244, which gave JASC the  responsibility to make arrangements for                                                               
the design of  the Alaska Decoration of Honor and  to award these                                                               
medallions to  the next of  kin. The  committee is here  today to                                                               
discuss storage of the medallions, she said.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
1:14:14 PM                                                                                                                    
KIM  SKIPPER, staff,  Representative David  Nelson, Alaska  State                                                               
Legislature,    Juneau,    Alaska,    explained    that    former                                                               
Representative  Nancy   Dahlstrom  served  as  co-chair   of  the                                                               
committee  when the  Decoration  of Honor  was  created. Some  of                                                               
these  honorees served  in  the Korean  War.  Each Decoration  of                                                               
Honor  medallion is  engraved with  the  fallen service  member's                                                               
name.  These  members  were  either   Alaska  residents  or  were                                                               
assigned  to a  duty  station  in Alaska  at  the  time of  their                                                               
deaths. The  legislature made Decoration of  Honor medallions for                                                               
every  eligible member  in 2009  and held  a Decoration  of Honor                                                               
ceremony.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
1:15:47 PM                                                                                                                    
MS.  SKIPPER reviewed  slide 3,  which  consisted of  a table  of                                                               
legislative resolutions  that awarded  the Alaska  Decorations of                                                               
Honor and  the number of  awards issued. She reviewed  the status                                                               
of   the   245  Decoration   of   Honor   medallions,  of   which                                                               
approximately  122 were  being held  in storage.  She paraphrased                                                               
the  Alaska Decoration  of Honor  awards by  year, which  read as                                                               
follows:                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     In 2008,  Senate Concurrent  Resolution 18  awarded 171                                                                    
     fallen service  members of the Korean  War, the Vietnam                                                                    
     War, the  1991 Gulf Wars,  the U.S. War  in Afghanistan                                                                    
     and the 2003 Iraq War the Decoration of Honor.                                                                             
     [Due  to  the  length  of the  resolution  listing  the                                                                    
     fallen   service  members'   names,  a   link  to   the                                                                    
     resolution   can    be   found   at    the   following:                                                                    
     http://www.akleg.gov/PDF/25/Bills/SCR018B.PDF].                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
1:16:18 PM                                                                                                                    
MS.  SKIPPER  added  that  67  of the  171  Decoration  of  Honor                                                               
medallions engraved  with the fallen service  members' names were                                                               
not distributed  and remain in  storage. She explained  that some                                                               
families of  the Vietnam War  fallen service members  refused the                                                               
Decoration  of Honor  because of  anti-war  sentiment, that  some                                                               
spouses did  not want the reminder  of their lost husband  or son                                                               
and  some next  of kin  of the  fallen service  members were  not                                                               
located. She paraphrased the following:                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     In  2009, House  Concurrent  Resolution  7 awarded  six                                                                    
     fallen service members the  Alaska Decoration of Honor,                                                                    
     as follows:  Donald V.  Clark, Christian  P. Humphreys,                                                                    
     Cody J. Eggleston, Heath K.  Pickard, Jason A. Karella,                                                                    
     and Daniel R. Sexton.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MS. SKIPPER said all six medallions were distributed.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
1:16:50 PM                                                                                                                    
MS.  SKIPPER  continued to  paraphrase  the  Decoration of  Honor                                                               
recipients, which read:                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     In  2011,  House  Concurrent Resolution  7  awarded  30                                                                    
     fallen service members the  Alaska Decoration of Honor,                                                                    
     as  follows: Daniel  L. Hansen,  Michael Boyd  Alleman,                                                                    
     Michael Lee  Mayne, Zachary  Ray Nordmeyer,  Patrick A.                                                                    
     Devoe II, Timothy Bowles, Jarrett  P. Griemel, Brian N.                                                                    
     Bradshaw, Justin  Aaron Casillas, Aaron  Eli Fairbairn,                                                                    
     Nicolas  Hugh  Joseph  Gideon, Clayton  Patrick  Bowen,                                                                    
     Morris  Lewis Walker,  Kurt Robert  Curtiss, Darryn  D.                                                                    
     Andrews,  Michael  Chance   Murphrey,  Thomas  Franklyn                                                                    
     Lyons,  Zachary Taylor  Myers,  Shannon Michael  Smith,                                                                    
     Matthew  Michael  Martinek,  Michael Shane  Cote,  Jr.,                                                                    
     Gregory M.W.  Fleury, Julian Lee Berisford,  Jason Omar                                                                    
     Bradley  Hickman, Joel  D. Clarkson,  James L.  Miller,                                                                    
     Christopher   Eastman,  Jaysine   Petree,  William   B.                                                                    
     Dawson, and Renee Sinkler.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
1:16:54 PM                                                                                                                    
MS. SKIPPER informed  members that none of  these medallions were                                                               
distributed so all 30 medallions were in storage.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MS. SKIPPER  explained that  the process  to identify  and locate                                                               
the next  of kin  was time  consuming and  sometimes problematic.                                                               
The list from the U.S. Army  designates the next of kin, which is                                                               
often the mother or wife,  she said. However, some fallen service                                                               
members were  only 21-years-old or  younger at the time  of their                                                               
deaths. Some members married young  but their wives may have left                                                               
the  state and  no longer  want the  reminder. Some  next of  kin                                                               
reside in  the Lower  48 or  in other  countries, making  it more                                                               
difficult to locate them.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
1:17:53 PM                                                                                                                    
MS.  SKIPPER  continued  to  identify  the  Decoration  of  Honor                                                               
recipients, which read as follows:                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     In  2012, Senate  Concurrent Resolution  20 awarded  25                                                                    
     fallen service members the  Alaska Decoration of Honor,                                                                    
     as follows: Charles E. Ridgley,  Jr., David L. Brodeur,                                                                    
     Lamarol  J.  Tucker,  Cheizray   Enrolled  SCR  20  -2-                                                                    
     Pressley,  Bradley L.  Melton,  Jeffery  C. S.  Sherer,                                                                    
     Robert L. Voakes, Jr., Devin  A. Snyder, Christopher R.                                                                    
     Bell,  Joshua D.  Powell, Ryan  J.  Larson, Kenneth  B.                                                                    
     Elwell, Tyler M. Springmann,  Douglas L. Cordo, Brandon                                                                    
     S. Mullins,  Douglas J.  Green, Christophe  J. Marquis,                                                                    
     Brett  E.  Wood,  Rodolfo Rodriguez,  Jr.,  Timothy  D.                                                                    
     Sayne,  Ryan  J. Cook,  Calvin  M.  Pereda, Matthew  C.                                                                    
     Colin, James R. Burnett, and Johnathan B. McCain.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MS. SKIPPER informed members that none of these medallions                                                                      
were distributed and all were in storage.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
1:18:00 PM                                                                                                                    
MS. SKIPPER said she took over  the project in 2013. At the time,                                                               
she  served   as  staff  to  then   Representative  Saddler.  She                                                               
continued to  identify the Decoration of  Honor recipients, which                                                               
read as follows:                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     In  2013,  House  Concurrent  Resolution  5  awarded  9                                                                    
     fallen service members the  Alaska Decoration of Honor,                                                                    
     as follows:  Dustin P. Napier,  Jeffrey L.  White, Jr.,                                                                    
     Thomas  K.   Fogarty,  Brian  L.  Walker,   Richard  L.                                                                    
     McNulty,  Vincent J.  Ellis, Nathan  T. Davis,  Carl E.                                                                    
     Hammar, and Ethan J. Martin.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MS. SKIPPER stated that she was able to locate all of the                                                                       
next of kin and distribute these awards.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
1:18:20 PM                                                                                                                    
MS.  SKIPPER  continued  to  identify  the  Decoration  of  Honor                                                               
recipients, which read as follows:                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     In  2018, Senate  Concurrent  Resolution  14 awarded  3                                                                    
     fallen service members the  Alaska Decoration of Honor,                                                                    
     as follows: David T.  Brabander, Hansen B. Kirkpatrick,                                                                    
     and Jacob M. Sim.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MS. SKIPPER commented that she  picked up these medallions at the                                                               
Alaska  Mint yesterday.  She related  that  she has  next of  kin                                                               
contacts  for two  of the  fallen  service members  but needs  to                                                               
locate the third fallen service member's wife or next of kin.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
1:18:51 PM                                                                                                                    
MS.  SKIPPER  continued  to  identify  the  Decoration  of  Honor                                                               
recipients, which read as follows:                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     In 2020,  Senate Concurrent  Resolution 11  awarded one                                                                    
     fallen service  member the  Alaska Decoration  of Honor                                                                    
     to Gabriel David Conde.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  SKIPPER said  she worked  for Senator  Revak last  year. She                                                               
stated that she just picked up  the Decoration of Honor medal for                                                               
Mr. Conde who was killed in action in 2018.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
1:19:20 PM                                                                                                                    
MS. SKIPPER stated  that the committee could consider  what to do                                                               
with  the approximate  122 Decoration  of Honor  medallions being                                                               
held in  storage at the Anchorage  Legislative Information Office                                                               
(LIO).  She   emphasized  the   importance  of   distributing  or                                                               
displaying  the  Decoration of  Honor  medallions  of the  fallen                                                               
service members.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MS. SKIPPER related that in 2015,  LIO staff received a call from                                                               
a  Gold Star  family member  who discovered  via a  Google search                                                               
that  her son  was awarded  the  Decoration of  Honor. LIO  staff                                                               
provided contact  information so she  was able to  distribute the                                                               
Decoration of  Honor medallion to  the mother. Through  that Gold                                                               
Star Family  connection, she was also  able to trace the  next of                                                               
kin of a second fallen service member, she said.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
1:21:01 PM                                                                                                                    
MS.  SKIPPER  noted that  the  state's  original order  from  the                                                               
Alaska   Mint  to   produce  the   medallions  included   minting                                                               
additional blank  medallions. She stated  that a number  of boxes                                                               
of  the  unengraved  and  unassembled  medallions  were  also  in                                                               
storage at the Anchorage LIO.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
1:21:28 PM                                                                                                                    
CO-CHAIR  CLAMAN  asked  how   many  unengraved  and  unassembled                                                               
medallions were also in storage.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MS. SKIPPER said was unsure but  offered to check and report back                                                               
to the committee.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
1:21:47 PM                                                                                                                    
REPRESENTATIVE  SPOHNHOLZ asked  whether any  effort was  made to                                                               
track down  those awarded the  Decoration of Honor from  2011 and                                                               
2012 since none  of the 30 and 25  medallions, respectively, were                                                               
distributed.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. SKIPPER related her  understanding that former Representative                                                               
Dahlstrom's  staff made  some effort  to do  so. She  pointed out                                                               
that it was  sometimes difficult to obtain a list  of next of kin                                                               
for  the  fallen  service  members.  Since  the  medallions  were                                                               
legislative honors  and not military  medals, the  military could                                                               
not release  the information, she  said. She offered to  check on                                                               
the status and report back to the committee.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
1:22:57 PM                                                                                                                    
REPRESENTATIVE NELSON  asked if  any effort  was made  to contact                                                               
museums about housing the medallions.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MS.  SKIPPER answered  no. She  explained that  she was  awaiting                                                               
further  direction  from  the  committee on  how  to  handle  the                                                               
Decoration of Honor medallions still  in storage. She recalled an                                                               
inquiry by  Department of Military  & Veterans Affairs  (DMVA) on                                                               
the  medallions. She  wondered if  DMVA would  be an  appropriate                                                               
agency to display them.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
1:24:15 PM                                                                                                                    
REPRESENTATIVE  NELSON suggested  that  the  Decoration of  Honor                                                               
medallions  still in  possession could  be loaned  to museums  to                                                               
honor these fallen soldiers.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
1:24:35 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  SHOWER agreed  that displaying  the medallions  would be                                                               
better than storing them. He  suggested that the committee should                                                               
consider any associated  costs for storage or  display, since the                                                               
state  does  not  have  a mechanism  to  receive  donations  from                                                               
organizations,  such  as  veterans' organizations  to  cover  any                                                               
costs.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
1:26:10 PM                                                                                                                    
CO-CHAIR CLAMAN noted  that about a third of the  families of the                                                               
fallen  service  members  were  veterans of  the  Korean  War  or                                                               
Vietnam War. These  members were awarded the  Decoration of Honor                                                               
in Senate Concurrent Resolution 18 but  their next of kin did not                                                               
claim  the medallions.  At  this point,  it  seems unlikely  that                                                               
their  next of  kin would  claim  their medallions,  he said.  He                                                               
suggested that the  legislature should not continue  to store the                                                               
medals.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
1:26:48 PM                                                                                                                    
MS.  SKIPPER remarked  that some  next of  kin contacts  have not                                                               
been  made. She  related that  she conducted  Google searches  as                                                               
time  permitted, but  her  time  was limited.  She  said she  has                                                               
compiled a list,  which is on a memory stick  that she intends to                                                               
provide to the library to preserve the information.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
1:28:55 PM                                                                                                                    
CO-CHAIR SHOWER  suggested that perhaps a  veteran's organization                                                               
could take responsibility for the  Decoration of Honor medallions                                                               
for those  fallen service members  whose next of kin  declined to                                                               
accept the awards.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
1:29:35 PM                                                                                                                    
MS. SKIPPER  recalled seeing a  display of veterans' medals  in a                                                               
hall at the California State  Capitol. She suggested that members                                                               
might  want to  consider a  similar display  at the  Alaska State                                                               
Capitol.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
1:30:28 PM                                                                                                                    
REPRESENTATIVE  TARR said  she  worked with  Ms.  Skipper on  the                                                               
Decoration of  Honor medallions  when she  was co-chair  of JASC.                                                               
She hoped that  if the legislature were to  display the unclaimed                                                               
Decoration of  Honor medallions, that this  display would include                                                               
the names  of all fallen  service members, even  those recipients                                                               
whose  next of  kin received  their Decorations  of Honor  so all                                                               
would be honored.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MS. SKIPPER  agreed that was  important. She related  that making                                                               
calls to parents was an emotional  experience for her and for the                                                               
parents or spouse because the pain never goes away.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
1:32:21 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR REINBOLD  asked whether  the task to  locate next  of kin                                                               
for the  122 Decoration of  Honor medallions still  in possession                                                               
could be divided up among staff volunteers.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR SHOWER  agreed that  a plaque  should list  everyone. He                                                               
suggested using  several veteran's  organizations to  help locate                                                               
next of kin.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
1:33:50 PM                                                                                                                    
MS. SKIPPER  noted that  only one  Decoration of  Honor medallion                                                               
was issued  per fallen service  member. Sometimes the  parents of                                                               
the fallen service  member are divorced so  she receives requests                                                               
for another medallion from the  parents who did not receive them.                                                               
She   reported  that   under  former   Speaker  Pete   Kott,  the                                                               
legislature created a line of  duty coin. Those coins were minted                                                               
and  distributed  to the  next  of  kin  of fallen  Alaska  State                                                               
Troopers or police  officers. She said these  coins are beautiful                                                               
and are  housed in a  nice wooden box  but are not  engraved. She                                                               
suggested that JASC might consider  distributing these coins when                                                               
family members request duplicate medallions.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
1:36:33 PM                                                                                                                    
CO-CHAIR CLAMAN  acknowledged that it  was a challenge  to decide                                                               
what to  do with the  Decoration of Honor medallions  in storage.                                                               
He  said  it   seemed  as  though  the   legislature  has  enough                                                               
medallions.  He suggested  one  option might  be  to include  the                                                               
fallen  service   member  names  on  a   veterans'  memorial.  He                                                               
emphasized  that  it was  important  not  to exclude  anyone.  He                                                               
commented that  the size  of the  Decoration of  Honor medallions                                                               
might make it difficult to  find sufficient space in the Capitol.                                                               
He asked Co-Chair  Shower if he knew of  a veterans' organization                                                               
that might be interested in assisting the committee.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR SHOWER offered  to reach out to  a veterans' organization                                                               
and report back at next meeting.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
1:38:12 PM                                                                                                                    
CO-CHAIR CLAMAN stated he would keep  this item on the agenda. He                                                               
acknowledged  the  importance  of  honoring  the  fallen  service                                                               
members. He surmised  that the last thing members  would want was                                                               
to keep the awarded Decoration of Honor medallions in storage.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR SHOWER  informed members  that U.S. Senator  Dan Sullivan                                                               
is currently  working on  funding for  an Arctic  Warfare Center,                                                               
which  is still  a few  years in  the offing.  He suggested  that                                                               
building might  be a perfect  place to display the  Decoration of                                                               
Honor  medallions.   He  anticipated  the  building   would  have                                                               
adequate space  and it is  service oriented. He offered  to check                                                               
with  U.S.  Senator Sullivan's  office  and  report back  to  the                                                               
committee.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
1:39:38 PM                                                                                                                    
REPRESENTATIVE  TARR  recalled that  an  annual  report for  JASC                                                               
would  need  to be  prepared.  One  requirement included  in  the                                                               
report  was  to  review  the enabling  statute  and  justify  the                                                               
necessity for  the committee. She  suggested the  committee might                                                               
wish to  consider including this project  in its recommendations.                                                               
She recalled that previously JASC  had a more substantial budget,                                                               
including additional  staff assigned  to handle projects  such as                                                               
identifying  the Decoration  of Honor  recipients. However,  over                                                               
time committee staffing changed, she  said. She noted that it can                                                               
take staff  several days to  locate next  of kin, make  calls and                                                               
attempt  to  deliver  the Decoration  of  Honor  medallions.  She                                                               
suggested that  this project could  be included in  the long-term                                                               
plan and recommendations.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
1:41:05 PM                                                                                                                    
CO-CHAIR CLAMAN acknowledged  that the report was  due in January                                                               
2021, before  the next legislative  session. He related  that one                                                               
frustration was that  the adjutant general is  required to report                                                               
to  the   committee  in   December  but   that  was   not  always                                                               
consistently  done, which  could make  the committee's  work more                                                               
difficult.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MS.  SKIPPER explained  that JASC  reports  were due  in an  "off                                                               
year"  so the  timeframe  does not  correspond to  the  end of  a                                                               
legislature.  She  suggested  the   committee  could  consider  a                                                               
statutory change  to address this.  She acknowledged she  was not                                                               
familiar  with  the  rationale  for the  timing  of  the  report.                                                               
However, the report  consists of the committee work  for 2020 and                                                               
2021,  which is  due at  the  beginning of  the next  legislative                                                               
session. Thus, it was possible  that the co-chair serving in year                                                               
one would not be reelected to serve  in year two. If so, it could                                                               
result in the committee cobbling together the report.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
1:42:56 PM                                                                                                                    
CO-CHAIR CLAMAN  related his understanding  that the  logic could                                                               
be that having the report due  on the in-between year would allow                                                               
the   committee  additional   time  to   better  understand   the                                                               
requirements. He  acknowledged that  having the  committee report                                                               
due  at the  beginning of  a new  legislative session  might mean                                                               
some  members may  not  serve. Thus,  after  the legislature  was                                                               
organized  and the  session started,  new members  would need  to                                                               
prepare the  report. He  acknowledged that  at some  level, there                                                               
were challenges  with each scenario.  He said one  solution might                                                               
be to require that an annual report be submitted.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
1:43:47 PM                                                                                                                    
REPRESENTATIVE  SPOHNHOLZ  suggested  that  the  committee  could                                                               
require the  report due by December  31, which would fall  at the                                                               
end of  the two-year  legislature. She  said she  appreciated Ms.                                                               
Skipper's feedback on how to  modernize the requirement by moving                                                               
the deadline  up one month  to guarantee  that the report  was in                                                               
hand in time for the new legislature.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
1:44:42 PM                                                                                                                    
CO-CHAIR  CLAMAN stated  he  would  keep this  item  on the  next                                                               
agenda.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
^Organizational Meeting                                                                                                         
                     ORGANIZATIONAL MEETING                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
1:45:03 PM                                                                                                                    
CO-CHAIR    CLAMAN   announced    the   consideration    of   the                                                               
organizational  meeting. He  reviewed the  upcoming meetings  and                                                               
tours. He said the committee scheduled  a tour of the Joint Armed                                                               
Services  Headquarters  at  the Joint  Base  Elmendorf-Richardson                                                               
(JBER) on August 25, 2021, from 10 a.m. to 12 noon.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR CLAMAN further stated that  Major General Torrence Saxe,                                                               
Adjutant General,  Alaska Army National Guard  suggested that the                                                               
committee  consider  touring operations  in  other  parts of  the                                                               
state,  including the  Anchorage  Joint  Forces Headquarters  and                                                               
offices  in Bethel,  Kodiak, Fairbanks  and Southeast  Alaska. He                                                               
suggested  that   the  committee   should  make  sure   this  was                                                               
consistent with  ongoing operations and that  the committee would                                                               
not  incur any  additional cost.  He offered  to provide  members                                                               
with more details in the next few weeks.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
1:46:16 PM                                                                                                                    
REPRESENTATIVE  TARR  asked  whether   members  would  return  to                                                               
Anchorage  for  the JBER  tour  if  members  were in  Juneau  for                                                               
special session.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  CLAMAN   suggested  that  members  should   await  more                                                               
information and  stay flexible given the  uncertainty surrounding                                                               
the third  special legislative  session, in terms  of when  it is                                                               
convened and  for how  long. He  said it  was quite  possible the                                                               
legislature would not  be in special session or  that the special                                                               
session  might  be delayed.  He  recalled  that at  times  during                                                               
session  he has  been in  Anchorage so  if some  members were  in                                                               
Anchorage they could attend.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
1:48:02 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  SHOWER,  noting  it  was  not  yet  formally  announced,                                                               
related his understanding  based on comments made at  the time of                                                               
the  Comprehensive Fiscal  Plan  Working Group  meetings, it  was                                                               
likely  that  the governor  would  allow  members to  convene  on                                                               
August 16, 2021.  He suggested that members and  staff could take                                                               
Alaska Army  National Guard  flights if  the legislature  were to                                                               
coordinate tours  with military  operational training.  Since the                                                               
committee does not have funding, this  was one way for members to                                                               
travel  and  tour  infrastructure  facilities  without  incurring                                                               
additional costs.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
1:50:08 PM                                                                                                                    
CO-CHAIR CLAMAN  indicated that he  was receptive  to legislative                                                               
travel  on  planned training  flights  since  the training  would                                                               
occur anyway.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
1:50:27 PM                                                                                                                    
COLONEL VAKALIS asked  whether the committee planned  to have the                                                               
senior members of the various  service branches give an update on                                                               
their  roles in  Arctic strategies.  He offered  that JASC  could                                                               
play a  key role  in Arctic  projects but  the committee  must be                                                               
informed of each service branch's role and plans.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR CLAMAN  answered that  JASC's target  plan for  the fall                                                               
was  to have  presentations by  the armed  forces leadership.  He                                                               
remarked that it would be  unlikely that all three branches would                                                               
be available at the same time.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
COLONEL VAKALIS  suggested that perhaps the  committee could have                                                               
the second in command present.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
1:51:49 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR   REINBOLD  echoed   Colonel   Vakalis's  comments.   She                                                               
expressed  concern that  the legislature  does  not receive  more                                                               
information on  national security issues. She  suggested that the                                                               
committee prioritize  being briefed on national  security issues.                                                               
She expressed  interest in knowing  more about  Alaska's resource                                                               
development, Arctic issues the State  of Hawaii's activities with                                                               
Russia and China and even food security for preparedness.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
1:53:08 PM                                                                                                                    
CO-CHAIR  CLAMAN related  that he  spoke  to General  Saxe a  few                                                               
weeks  ago.  General  Saxe  was  specific  about  the  U.S.  Army                                                               
National  Guard  being  one  of  the  first  responders  on  food                                                               
emergencies during a state of emergency.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
1:53:20 PM                                                                                                                    
REPRESENTATIVE  TARR  recalled  that the  armed  service  members                                                               
previously  recommended JASC  provide six  months advance  notice                                                               
for them to  come before the committee. She  recalled she started                                                               
planning   in  August   for  late   January  to   early  February                                                               
presentations when she served as  JASC's co-chair. Advance notice                                                               
would  allow members,  including  public members,  ample time  to                                                               
arrange for travel to Juneau, she said.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR CLAMAN recalled that the  House Armed Services Committee                                                               
previously received presentations on strategic updates.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
1:54:15 PM                                                                                                                    
CO-CHAIR  SHOWER offered  his view  that  COVID-19 caused  issues                                                               
this year.  He agreed  that ideally  the committee  would receive                                                               
updates every  year. When  riots were  occurring in  Seattle last                                                               
May, Alaska asked to have  a military ship standby because Alaska                                                               
is logistically  challenged and  it would take  time to  deploy a                                                               
ship. He emphasized the importance  of JASC's role to ensure that                                                               
a plan is in place that  could be communicated to Alaskans if any                                                               
needs arose.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
1:56:20 PM                                                                                                                    
There being no further business to come before the committee,                                                                   
Co-Chair Claman adjourned the Joint Armed Services Committee                                                                    
meeting at 1:56 p.m.                                                                                                            

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
Decoration of Honor Presentation 7.28.2021.pdf JASC 7/28/2021 1:00:00 PM
Decoration of Honor Powerpoint Presentation 7.28.2021
HB 244 (2007) Legislation Creating Decoration of Honor.pdf JASC 7/28/2021 1:00:00 PM
HB 244